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Thursday, August 29, 2013

Luck- group 3

During our brief discussion of Luck, a few quotes were brought up about happiness and the pursuit of such emotion. We quoted Bok by asking "what does it take to acquire happiness?" Does happiness for one equal deceit or another? Is someone else more or less deserving of happiness than I? We referenced our first class example of the bitterly and the net, that we are so busy trying to attain happiness that we end up destroying it in the process. Another concept we liked was the idea that we become who we are by how we respond to the shifting circumstances against which our lives delineate themselves (p2). Like Bok's mother, we can choose to alter the situation given to us by making our own choices.

6 comments:

  1. Thanks, Megan! :)

    I love Bok's attitude about responding to the circumstances of our lives. She says, "Yes,we are buffeted by forces and random events far beyond our control. But this is no reason to stop generating efforts of our own, to alter the situation in which we find ourselves".

    I'd like to add that I think this attitude really ties in with Frankl's book, Man's Search for Meaning as well as Csikszentmihalyi's book, Flow.



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  2. Congrats on being the first author to post, Megan.

    Thought I'd offer a sample here of how to "round the bases," for benefit of those still puzzling about it:

    First, looking forward to next time, a factual question about Bok's next chapter: who says "I rose with the sun and I was happy; I went walking and I was happy"? -Rousseau

    And a discussion question: James said he aimed "to defend experience AGAINST philosophy." What do you think he meant? Is it a strange thing for a philosopher to say? [I'm on 2d base now... or will be, when I come to class Tuesday and fill out the scorecard.]

    Now, looking back to Thursday's discussion: If Bok were herself a pessimist by nature, she might not feel so "lucky" to be the beneficiary of her mother's determination. But even pessimists can love life. Can't they? [Halfway to 3d... and since I've also commented on Group 2's post, I'm safe at 3d.]

    Here's a link to a TED Talk by "Flow" author Csikszentmihalyi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e1xU0-h9Y8 [Score! HOME RUN!! 4 total bases!!!]

    How easy is that? Fun, too. Let's all do it.

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  3. Thanks for posting for our group, Megan. I think Bok is right that so much of who we are is determined by our response to circumstances and not necessarily the circumstances themselves. You did a nice job with the summary.

    Looking ahead: who would Owen Flanagan recognize as "the happiest person ever to exist?" Answer: Tibetan Buddhist monk Matthieu Ricard (p. 16)

    As for discussion, I wonder what part of the monks' practice is most responsible for their happiness--the meditation, the "living in the moment" or their compassion? Also, I wonder if Ricard's book Happiness would be something for our group report?

    My link for today is to the website of the "happiest person ever to exist," matthieuricard.org.

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  4. I liked how Bok said we respond more directly to narratives but that we can’t define happiness just by looking at ours and others experiences. With the quote “we become who we are in part by how we respond to the shifting circumstances” I think she is explaining that our personal experiences as well as other things like cultural or economic factors are all partial contributors to who we are and that we can’t define our happiness based upon one part but instead should take all of these things into account.

    Question for Chapter 2: Who said that we have to rely on introspective observation first, foremost, and always for insight into how we try to grasp the nature of experience? William James

    Discussion for Chapter 2: Why does Bok say that we should shift between our subjective and objective perspectives when trying to understand happiness by looking at personal experiences?

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  5. I was reminded of this song. I also like the Beatles a lot! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmY7LkZuqQc

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